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« on: April 29, 2006, 08:44:35 PM »
What's New

WinAVI Video Converter 8.0
Released Date: 2007-05-25
1.    New DVD Menu/Navigation Information/Multiplex Video Mixing engines developed. Support to create DVD menu/naviagation information and input multiplex video mixing.
2.    Support rip DVD to any format, etc. Xvid+MP3....
3.    Support to select multiple audio and subtitle streams.
4.    Brand-new MPEG Encoder, which specifies more preferences.
5.    Support to output MPEG file in it's elementary streams.
6.    Support to output MPEG2 PS (Program Stream) and TS (Transport Stream).
7.    Support Closed GOP function.
8.    Support to encode MPEG C-VBR (Constant-Variable Bitrate).
9.    Support to encode Divx-HD format.
10.    Rewrite MPlex Component, which supports to encode any picture size and avoid buffer overrun/copy to speed up conversions.
11.    Support to select MPEG1/2 aspect ratio and automatically choose proper bitrate according to picture size.
12.    Support to synthesize DVD subtitle streams.
13.    Support to real time preview source video while doing settings.
14.    Support to adjust volume/brightness/contrast for output files.
15.    Add audio and video sync function.
16.    Add an indicator for final file size.
17.    Support to select video decoder/splitter. Solved the problem on the compatibility between different decoders.
18.    New method of MOV/Real Media decoding. Now converting MOV/Real Media to any format will be much perfecter.
19.    New DVD-burning engine, more stable.
20.     Support to set the start and end point of conversions.
21.    Fixed all known bugs.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2006, 09:08:02 AM »
This seems promising.

I'll stickify this so please everyone of you that faced problems please post here about if they are fixed or not.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2006, 06:29:13 PM »
cool.!  Grin

will give it a try soon.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2006, 07:00:20 PM »
after a few test converts, to me at least, it seems slower. i encoded a 20 min. avi to DVD in v7.1 in about 40 minutes. same file and setting in v7.5 says it will take an hour an fifteen minutes.

i might have found a little bug. when i converted a file and set the 4:3 aspect ratio in the DVD options, and put both width and height to 96% in the Encode options. there is a green line in the lower left and right of the encoded video.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006, 02:59:01 AM »
Quote from: HeeZy on April 30, 2006, 07:00:20 PM
after a few test converts, to me at least, it seems slower. i encoded a 20 min. avi to DVD in v7.1 in about 40 minutes. same file and setting in v7.5 says it will take an hour an fifteen minutes.

i might have found a little bug. when i converted a file and set the 4:3 aspect ratio in the DVD options, and put both width and height to 96% in the Encode options. there is a green line in the lower left and right of the encoded video.

The speed problem puzzled me. v7.5 engine should be more faster than v7.1. I think maybe you choose the "quality" mode. In the "quality" mode, v7.5 engine is slower than v7.1, but it'll get a very good image quality. We've tested it, the video quality in v7.5 "quality" mode is almost same as TMPGEnc. That's a big improvement than v7.1.

And for the another problem we'll test it soon. I think it should be a "little" bug, thanks for your testing work, really.  :-)
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2006, 04:37:44 PM »
yes, i had it set to "quality" mode. so i guess i should set it to "speed" quality to get the same speeed as 7.1?
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2006, 03:50:23 AM »
This new version is quite a bit slower that's for sure...before i even updated i tested a 41min file convert in version 7.1 with the normal settings i use all the time.

Well in 7.1 i can convert a 41min Xvid Video going between 95-105FPS which let's me get it done in about 10 Mins time,now with 7.5 the same exact file goes at 45-53FPS and takes over 20mins long no matter if i pick quality or speed for the setting i get same exactly quality/filesize/convert time to go to a mpeg file.

I think something kinda got messed up in this version,they say 20% faster or whatever but it's 50% slower on all my converts no matter if it's to mpeg format or straight to DvD.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2006, 05:39:33 AM »
I ran some comparing tests(avi to dvd ) between 7.0 and 7.5 version with the same video and the same settings and 7.5 encodes about 10% faster(I haven't ever used the 7.1.)

For example with :
Intel Pentium 3,0GH ,
1G RAM
Video source :Avi
Conversion : to DVD
Quality : Highest

I got :
Total conversion time =13 minutes Smiley ( with version 7.0 = 15 minutes)

So version 7.5 is the best so far for me.I don't know why on your machines runs slower. Huh
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2006, 06:10:23 AM »
Quote from: HeeZy on May 02, 2006, 04:37:44 PM
yes, i had it set to "quality" mode. so i guess i should set it to "speed" quality to get the same speeed as 7.1?

Yes, if you choose "speed" mode, I think you can get 10%+ faster than v7.1. And IMO, the picture quality of "speed" mode in v7.5 is good enough, I recommend you use the "speed" mode.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2006, 06:11:56 AM »
Quote from: Darkjeste on May 03, 2006, 03:50:23 AM
This new version is quite a bit slower that's for sure...before i even updated i tested a 41min file convert in version 7.1 with the normal settings i use all the time.

Well in 7.1 i can convert a 41min Xvid Video going between 95-105FPS which let's me get it done in about 10 Mins time,now with 7.5 the same exact file goes at 45-53FPS and takes over 20mins long no matter if i pick quality or speed for the setting i get same exactly quality/filesize/convert time to go to a mpeg file.

I think something kinda got messed up in this version,they say 20% faster or whatever but it's 50% slower on all my converts no matter if it's to mpeg format or straight to DvD.



Does your computer have a AMD64 CPU? We've found a strange problem about AMD64 CPU, we'll release a hotfix for it soon.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2006, 01:49:31 PM »
Nope no AMD 64..I use a 2500XP@32--+ with 1 gig of ram and a 7200RPM 8mb cache WD hard drive.

Well now after messing with it some more i decided to try a differen't file that i did the other night and it was over 40mins long and it's corrrect on this one for about 10 mins time at 100FPS lmao.

I don't get how the two versions thoe treat my other file completely differen't,with 7.1 the output file was done at about 100FPS with about 10mins time or so for a 40min video which came out to about 299megs but now the same file in the new version with same settings becomes 650megs.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2006, 06:09:08 AM »
Thanks Darkjeste for your testing work. Well I think maybe version 7.1 and v7.5 use the different decode-filter when you convert the first file (We say that is "codec problem"). Please tell me the codec information about the first file in v7.1 and v7.5 (Run WinAVI, and click "Menu" button, select "See clip information" item, then see what video-decode codec is using)

I think there will be no problem about AVI(xvid/divx) in next version of WinAVI. Next version will bulit-in the AVI decoder in WinAVI, so there will be no "codec problem" again.

And for the different output size, I think you choose the "quality" mode, in version 7.5 we re-write the whole MPEG encoder, for improving quality we do a lot of optimization-works include using quality scale "1" (In v7.1 the highest quality scale is "2"), that will increase the output size but the video quality will be more great. you can compare the picture quality between v7.1 and v7.5 by using VirtualDubMod, the different is very obvious. Our testing result is under same bitrate, the picture quality is almost same as TMPGEnc, better than MainCencept and VSO DivxToDVD(it is just a FFMPEG's shell).
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2006, 03:35:28 PM »
Version 7.5 Info

Total Time:41 m 31 s
Size:59732 frm
Width:624
Play Speed:23976
Audio Sample:16
Channel(s):2
Audio Renderer
Video Renderer
MP3
Xvid
SourceFilter

Version 7.1 Info

Total Time:41 m 31 s
Size:2110391771 frm
Width:624
Play Speed:-1
Audio Sample:16
Channel(s):2
Video Renderer
Default DirectSound Device
ZJ_MpaDecFilter
Xvid
AviSplitter
SourceFilter

Filter = MMStream Renderer
   Input   : {32595559-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Input   : {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
Filter = ZJ_MpaDecFilter
   Input   : {00000055-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Output  : {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
Filter = Xvid
   Input   : {44495658-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Output  : {32595559-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
Filter = StreamMonitor Audio
   Input   : {00000055-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Output  : {00000055-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
Filter = StreamMonitor Video
   Input   : {44495658-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Output  : {44495658-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
Filter = AviSplitter
   Output  : {44495658-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Output  : {00000055-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
   Input   : {E436EB88-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
Filter = SourceFilter
   Output  : {E436EB88-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}


Hell of alot more info from 7.1 then 7.5 lol,i've never had a problem with any file i've tried to do in 7.1 so far i've had a couple now with 7.5.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2006, 10:14:58 AM »
Hi!

I tried 7.5 in the past few days, but I have not recognized longer converting time (AVItoDVD quality mode). But there is a very strange thing: with v7.1 or v6.3 a 1CD xvid movie become around 3.5G DVD format. But in this new v7.5 it becomes just around 1.6G and the quality is very good. So the size of the converted DVD format is much more less than before. Is it normally? Of course I am glad, but very strange...  Huh
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2006, 01:36:10 AM »
Hi everyone,
As for the converting speed issue, you may delete the "AviSplitter.ax" file in \\WinAVIVideoConverter\Filter folder to have a try.
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