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« on: February 11, 2005, 09:28:14 PM »

Well this is why you should stop downloading movies.

The guy that had Lokitorrent not only made many $$$ from the ads and donations he was accepting, he also said that he was gathering money to help fight the MPAA. Many people donated and he gathered more than $40,000. Then instead of fighting MPAA he got an agreement with them, closed the website, gave all the data and logs to them and finally offered them a free advertisment:
http://www.lokitorrent.com/

This is so pathetic (that this guy actually took the money and then not just run away and closed the site but he handed it to them) that I don\'t want to comment it anymore. Any of you downloading illegally movies must think about it. Even renting a movie from Netflix is not so expensive, it\'s up to you to protect fairuse and not let people make money from illegally disturding them.

I mean they even got the maker of Bittorrent to the courts, while all he did is create an amazing protocol for transfering huge files, which is used by big sites, like linux distros. Don\'t let them make the internet a controlled place, we must protect it\'s freedom and downloading Mp3s and movies doesn\'t lead to that way. Internet is the best medium because everyone can make a site and tell his opinion or talk about what he loves or hates. We have to protect that!   :unsure:

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2005, 02:31:07 PM »

Article in EarthReactor.com:

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OKI TORRENT LAWSUIT :: A HOAX Written by: SharePro

As unknown facts continue to reveal themselves in the MPAA vs. LokiTorrent case, we feel a need to update the community with the following facts.

Please note: Attributing to the confusion surrounding this case, we have established that Ed Webber was not sued directly by the MPAA, rather was sued by individual media corporations such as Columbia, Disney, & Fox. Since the \"MPAA\" (Motion Picture Association of America) does not appear anywhere in the actual court filing, any search query for \"MPAA\" via the Texas Court Search Engine came up empty. In other words, the MPAA did not officially sue Ed Webber, rather the individual media companies, in a joint case, sued Ed Webber. We apologize for any confusion.

1) In several p2p interviews and on Lokitorrent.com website, Ed Webber accepted a responsibility to fight the MPAA in court on behalf of both his website(s) and the p2p community. By accepting such a task and responsibility, Ed Webber received not only the trust of millions of p2pr\'s worldwide, but also tens of thousands of dollars monthly to support legal fee\'s.

2) Ed Webber did not fight a case in court and it is doubtful whether he ever intended to. Mr. Webber settled his case in the preliminary stages of a court filing outside of court.

The title of our original article, \"LOKITORRENT COURT CASE :: HOAX\" is and remains to be TRUE. No judge or jury of our peers ever had the chance to review the facts of this case as it was never deliberated in a court of law. The \"court order\" is nothing more than a private agreement between the MPAA and Ed Webber, which was given legal standing by a judge.

Ed Webber knowingly manipulated the p2p community into donating a large amount of funds while during the same exact time, without the knowledge or agreement of the p2p community, closed a deal that potentially puts each and everyone of his supporting bit torrent community and website visiting members at risk.

During the time that Mr. Webber was accepting funds from the p2p community, and also instructing his lawyers to screw the p2p community, he also found time to try and secretly sell the domain on Sedo.com

On January 3, 2005, Slyck.com reported Lokitorrent.com required funds to support \"legal fees\". Most lawsuits, such as the Kazaa vs. RIAA case in California, take years to reveal themselves yet the p2p community was very willing to support this legal endeavor. Exactly one month after the Slyck.com article, all funds raised by Ed Webber via Lokitorrent.com were transferred to the MPAA.

3) Ed Webber accepted donations while in fact his lawyers were busy selling out the p2p file share community whose funds were being used to support the court case. Ed Webber failed to update the p2p community with the necessary details of the legal proceedings, thus everybody was left in the dark. We do not know the exact details of when or how Ed Webber and the MPAA made a deal, however, the fundraising began on January 3, 2005 and the deal between the MPAA vs. Ed Webber was signed by a judge on Feb 15, 2005.

It is assumed that the deal between Ed Webber and the MPAA deal was being \"cooked\" at least 30 days prior to the actual court order which means that Ed Webber began (from the get go) accepting funds from the p2p community when in fact he already knew that he was going to close a deal with the MPAA. In other words, Ed Webber committed FRAUD.

4) Ultimately, Ed Webber accepted the MPAA\'s position that BIT TORRENT sites are financially responsible for providing \"illegal files\" and folded before any legal lawsuit could realize themselves in a court of law. Ed, as trustee of tens of thousands of file sharers dollars, not only sold out the file share community that he represented, but also set a very dangerous precedent for future file share sites who are interested in encouraging community members to donate money to fight the RIAA & MPAA.

5) According to todays WHOIS domain command feature, LokiTorrent.com, Webbsense.com, Torrentstop.com, and Mufftorrent.com are still registered and owned by Ed Webber and are still hosted on his personal servers.

Mufftorrent.com and Websense.com continue to display their original website homepage features (without the torrents) while Lokitorrent.com & Torrentstop.com display an MPAA message warning potential file sharer\'s \"you can click but you cant hide\". At first this confused the best of us.

After reviewing Section 4, Article \"(C)\", of the LOKITORRENT AGREEMENT WITH MPAA, please note the following text: \"Shall affirmatively monitor and patrol for, and preclude access to...\". In other words, Ed Webber has agreed to become an affirmative informant for the MPAA. That explains why the site is still owned and controlled by Ed Webber.


Read more here:
http://earthreactor.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=2146#2146
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2005, 02:06:08 PM »

The above is incorrect as you can read here:
http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=686
He was gag ordered and had to pay ONE MILLION $$$$
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Court Papers:
http://www.joegratz.net/files/lokisettlement.pdf

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LokiTorrent Consent Judgment Online
February 25, 2005
Thomas Mennecke


The LokitTorrent shut down has stirred up a tremendous amount of speculation regarding the events surrounding this closure. Initially, the LokiTorrent website posted a notice that it was being sued by the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA.) Instead of folding like most other BitTorrent sites, it decided to fight back.   

Over the course of December and January, LokiTorrent raised over $40,000. However, this amount of money would not be nearly enough to fight off the MPAA juggernaut, and LokiTorrent owner Ed Webber found his $40,000 evaporated on lawyer fees.

Because of the gag order imposed on Ed Webber, he was unable to defend himself from wild criticism that ensued. Some stated he simply ran off with the money, while others condemned him for giving up the server logs. Others suggested the entire event was completely manufactured.

Putting any speculation the LokiTorrent closure was somehow false, the settlement document is now available on PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records.) PACER is a service that allows public access to court documents.

The Consent Judgment and Permanent Injunction include 13 points that Ed Webber must agree to. A Consent Judgment refers to a settlement that did no hear any arguments before a court or Judge. Basically, the two sides agreed to the settlement and the Judge signed the document. The points for the settlement include:

Defendant shall pay damages to Plaintiffs in the amount of One Million Dollars ($1,000,000).

Defendant shall promptly turn to Plaintiffs copies of all data, logs and information on all computer servers that were used in connection with the Webber BitTorrent System…

The document was initially reported by joegratz.net. Thanks to AussieMatt for bringing this story to our attention.



You can read the settlement here.



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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 03:01:23 PM »

Yes I read that the lawsuit was real after all, but he obviously had no intension to fight it.

Even if he changed his mind AFTER he collected the funds for hiring lawyers and stuff he could easily return the money he got via Paypal.

So even if he got sued or he made it up, the truth is that the collection of the funds was a SCAM.
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